New Objective-Fi Sub-forum

2 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

 There is nothing wrong with that rule.

 The problem is that a few members refuse to abide by it.

If the OP isn't willing to enforce discipline on their own thread and Chris doesn't have time, then perhaps it's time for Chris to appoint some moderators.

7 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

I agree and made a similar suggestion a number of hours ago. 

 

@The Computer Audiophile 

We’ve tried this for years but it doesn’t work. People can’t help themselves. 

23 minutes ago, jabbr said:

Hmmm @The Computer Audiophile ... I am sure you've carefully considered this. Are you changing your target audience for the site? I was originally drawn here because of the focus on "Computer Audiophile" which isn't as effectively covered in, say DIYAudio which is also far more technical. I have enjoyed the interplay between "objectivists" and :"subjectivists" though really those labels are themselves pretty funny. 

 

I mean, where are we supposed to discuss "Networks" ... is the current subforum intended only for subjective network sound? In the past, it was the OP which set the rules of the individual thread. What is wrong with that rule?

There’s no three alarm fire. All we are doing is separating discussions that only cause problems between two groups of people that don’t want to listen to each other. 

26 minutes ago, mansr said:

You'd love that, wouldn't you?

I’d love for a brilliant guy like you to be part of the solution. 

5 minutes ago, Shimei said:

 

I recently experienced this myself. Purchasing a new pair of speakers I realized how unimpressed I was upon first listening. I later realized that it was because I was "expecting" a certain sound beforehand. My very presuppositions were an obstacle. 

This is where the 'subjectivist' stance gets irritating, for people like me. The speakers should sound like nothing - they merely part of the conduit that gives me sound ... if they add "seasoning" then they, or the system overall is not doing the job properly ... always two sides, 😉.

6 minutes ago, fas42 said:

 

This is where the 'subjectivist' stance gets irritating, for people like me. The speakers should sound like nothing - they merely part of the conduit that gives me sound ... if they add "seasoning" then they, or the system overall is not doing the job properly ... always two sides, 😉.

Exactly, however, I was conditioned to "hear" a certain colorization and then when I heard a system which played the music differently or as is [realistically] I rejected the sound to a degree. Took tens of hours for the speakers to cut through the "deception" I was under for so long. I was lied to by my old speakers, they told me the instrument sounded like this or that or the bass note was meant to be heard in such brand fashion. I went through the various stages of denial, acceptance, anger, crusader, and now I'm a speaker sage 😎

4 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

 

Really? When?

 

I don't remember ever seeing threads flagged in this way.

It doesn't work because people are coming in threads in the middle, nobody reads the entire thing, and people just don't care what others thing often times. I'm being 100% serious. We've had this for a long time, but the die hards on both sides don't care. 

2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

It doesn't work because people are coming in threads in the middle, nobody reads the entire thing, and people just don't care what others thing often times. I'm being 100% serious. We've had this for a long time, but the die hards on both sides don't care. 

That's what I've run into. Apart from bad SEO [duplicate content] sometimes boards repost the OP on every page to bring everyone back around to the OP rather than to each other.

I joined this board a few months ago. And be quite frank I'm a little confused as to what kinda "hi-fi" board this is. Seems more to do with computers, file encoding, and related gear rather than what I'm used to on other audio sites. Not saying one or the other is good or bad just saying this site is different. 

And that's my impressionable observation.  

5 minutes ago, kumakuma said:

draconian solution

What's draconian about this solution?

8 minutes ago, mansr said:

Yes, I have: ban Alex. He's behind 90% of the disruptive crap going on here.

Mansr, you don't need to feed him...

2 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

Mansr, you don't need to feed him...

You mean I don't need to post here any more? I'm definitely considering that.

5 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

This is my livelihood.

This is your livelihood. Those are your advertisers.

1 minute ago, AudioDoctor said:

No, that's not what I mean at all. Thats silly but if you insist on continuing to battle it out with him, that's exactly what will happen, most likely. Just scroll on by, that's what I do to him and Frank now. People are going to make their decisions regardless. Post your FACTS, and then let it be.

When was the last time I engaged Alex in a confrontational manner?

4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

What's draconian about this solution?

I think you really need to clarify your solution. Seems to me everyone is reading into it something different. It doesn’t help when you say that it’s a gray area.
 

Despite all the discussion I’m still not clear what you are going to do, what rules will be imposed, enforced, how and when. And while I can be easily confused, I don’t think of myself as particularly dense. 

1 minute ago, mansr said:

When was the last time I engaged Alex in a confrontational manner?

Heck if I know, you brought him up in your post above, not me. Like I said, I just ignore him and Frank.

edit: If you don't and aren't, then there shouldn't be a problem, right?