Introducing the Sonore opticalRendu Deluxe

Hello simonp

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1 hour ago, Xoverman said:

If you want to learn all about computer streaming audio go this page  :-)

Which one … link missing

3 hours ago, Xoverman said:

If you want to learn all about computer streaming audio go this page  :-)

Thank you for the link. 😊

Hi, 

@vortecjr 

1. any plans to add 10Mhz external clock, like etheregen?
 

2. Is the OR deluxe compatible with DAC cables(copper) in practice ? 

11 hours ago, alecm said:

Hi, 

 

@vortecjr 

1. any plans to add 10Mhz external clock, like etheregen?
 

2. Is the OR deluxe compatible with DAC cables(copper) in practice ? 

No plans to add an external clock. A DAC cable should work in practice. 

A very interesting message / update from Qobuz (in the Qobuz club) re Qobuz connect :

We don't yet have a release date, as that also depends on external factors such as the integration of each manufacturer,but the project is moving forward. We invite you to encourage your favorite supplier to contact us and develop Connect together!

Strange timing effect:

Yesterday I had an effect again that that I can’t really circle in. I had this before and maybe someone has a good idea what is happening.
I start listening to music HQplayer -> Network -> Opticalrendu / NAA. Everything sounds pretty good and I enjoy the music. And then after 1 -3 hours the music flow stops just for a short time 0.5 – 2 seconds somewhere in a song. Then the music continues playing by itself just where it stopped.

Normally this would be annoying, but when the music continues after 0.5-2 seconds the sound quality is way better than the relative high level it already had. The music is more fluid and the room opens up quite a bit. The music becomes organic in away.

My idea is that some software or hardware PLL finally really looks in because all oscillators ( Clocks ) are in sync, or very near to each other so some looking mechanisms starts working properly.
Or it’s a buffer fill mechanisms that stops pumping.

I’m always happy when this happens because it shows me where the journey can go and what potential still is buried in the system J

On 7/18/2024 at 7:09 AM, Xoverman said:

Strange timing effect:

 

Yesterday I had an effect again that that I can’t really circle in. I had this before and maybe someone has a good idea what is happening.
I start listening to music HQplayer -> Network -> Opticalrendu / NAA. Everything sounds pretty good and I enjoy the music. And then after 1 -3 hours the music flow stops just for a short time 0.5 – 2 seconds somewhere in a song. Then the music continues playing by itself just where it stopped.

 

Normally this would be annoying, but when the music continues after 0.5-2 seconds the sound quality is way better than the relative high level it already had. The music is more fluid and the room opens up quite a bit. The music becomes organic in away.

 

My idea is that some software or hardware PLL finally really looks in because all oscillators ( Clocks ) are in sync, or very near to each other so some looking mechanisms starts working properly.
Or it’s a buffer fill mechanisms that stops pumping.

 

I’m always happy when this happens because it shows me where the journey can go and what potential still is buried in the system J

 

It’s hard to say what that can be…just haven’t seen this at all. 

On 6/20/2024 at 5:30 AM, vortecjr said:

He will be making a new video soon…

Hans Beekhuyzen was pretty impressed. May you share with us what the differences between the two Network chipsets are?

On 7/22/2024 at 9:19 AM, Xoverman said:

 

Hans Beekhuyzen was pretty impressed. May you share with us what the differences between the two Network chipsets are?

 

I'm going to hold off on discussing the differences in more detail. I posted some limited information on the product home page. I will say that not all the magic is coming from just the network chipset redesign.   

@vortecjr, regarding the CIAUDIO VDC•7 MKII Linear Power Supply you mentioned a few pages ago, what specific cord to connect to the Orendu Deluxe and where to purchase?

Thanks!

3 hours ago, bogbeat said:

@vortecjr, regarding the CIAUDIO VDC•7 MKII Linear Power Supply you mentioned a few pages ago, what specific cord to connect to the Orendu Deluxe and where to purchase?

Channel Islands Audio has ceased business operations. 
Their LPS model you mentioned has an output jack size of 5.5mm x 2.1mm—same as the input of all Sonore Rendu models.  So you just need a cable with that plug size at both ends.

Star-quad wire topology is recommended for its inductance lowering benefits.

Ghent Audio in China offers a wide range of well constructed DC cables, several made with good quality star-quad wire.

And his prices are extremely reasonable: https://www.ghentaudio.com/products/dc-j01?VariantsId=11189,11212,11234

On 6/24/2024 at 12:44 PM, vortecjr said:

No plans to add an external clock.

I think @barrows has tested external clock on the signature version with good results. Is there a possibility that either a better clock will be added to the signature version, or an external clock input can be added there. 
 

Thanks very much SuperDad.  Do you or anyone know if CIAUDIO VDC•7 MKII Linear Power Supply is still available new anywhere?  The Sonore link posted still shows them as available to order.

Would an Uptone UltraCap 1.2 do the trick?

30 minutes ago, bogbeat said:

Thanks very much SuperDad.  Do you or anyone know if CIAUDIO VDC•7 MKII Linear Power Supply is still available new anywhere?  The Sonore link posted still shows them as available to order.

The link that Jesus posted was to the CIAUDIO LPS on Sonore's Shopify store site--where Sonore offers a number of select 3rd-party products. Perhaps they have a few left in stock.

30 minutes ago, bogbeat said:

Would an Uptone UltraCap 1.2 do the trick?

Well not only has the UpTone UltraCap LPS-1.2 been out of production for about 2.5 years, its 1.15A max. output current was never quite enough for the boot-up draw of the opticalRendu (but plenty for ultraRendu and microRendu).

If you are looking for a fine very low-output-impedance power supply (low output impedance actually matters more to these digital devices than ultra-low-noise as the various local internal linear regulators in Rendus, etc. get rid of most noise), the best price/perfomance value I know of for a small single output supply is the MiniTeddy from Teddy Pardo in Israel for just $385 (https://teddypardo.com/product/miniteddy7v-2a/?attribute_pa_cable-type=55-21). A reliable discrete regulator design that beats the pants off of of the various Chinese units--you see all over AliExpress and eBay--which have a big hump in their output impedance at low frequency.

Sonore also offers their own fine 7V/1.5A supply ($795) based on Belleson super-regs and hand-built by my friend Barrows Worm in Colorado.  

https://www.sonore.us/power.html 

SuperDad : Did you have a chance to compare the 3 PS (the MiniTeddy, the CiAudio and the Sonore) with say, the OR de Luxe? I am using the SGC basic PS, I'm looking to upgrade (as per Vortecjr recommendation) and I was wondering if it is worthwhile to pay twice the money for the Sonore PS?

Thanks...

Thanks Superdad.  This is very helpful information.  Like Guy M mentioned above, I too am looking to replace a basic and ancient SMG LPS to power an orendu deluxe (as per Vortecjr recommendation). 

 I wish that I could afford the Sonore LPS...  So, yes, bang for the buck is very important for me.    

I will take a look at the MiniTeddy.

Cheers.

14 hours ago, Guy M said:

Did you have a chance to compare the 3 PS (the MiniTeddy, the CiAudio and the Sonore) with say, the OR de Luxe?

Sorry, I have not personally compared them. 

On 7/28/2024 at 3:29 AM, R1200CL said:

I think @barrows has tested external clock on the signature version with good results. Is there a possibility that either a better clock will be added to the signature version, or an external clock input can be added there. 

He made some tests on the original design and the DX design. If there was an advantage on the original design that gap has been mostly shorten with the DX design. Also his clock is very carefully implemented with a super clean power supply and very short distances on the signal wire. Its a science project not a solution we are interested in it...IMO. 

23 hours ago, bogbeat said:

Thanks very much SuperDad.  Do you or anyone know if CIAUDIO VDC•7 MKII Linear Power Supply is still available new anywhere?  The Sonore link posted still shows them as available to order.

 

Would an Uptone UltraCap 1.2 do the trick?

Adding to SuperDad's comments. Sonore purchased all the 7VDC inventory of the CIAudio power supplies when they closed shop. The ones we sell are all new and a very good option.

25 minutes ago, vortecjr said:

Sonore purchased all the 7VDC inventory of the CIAudio power supplies when they closed shop. The ones we sell are all new and a very good option.

That's cool!  

I just now discovered that Dusty closed up shop at the end of 2021. I didn't realized it was so long ago. Then again, time flies... 

I am thinking of switching from Melco N-100 to Sonore OR deluxe.

I am a dedicated Roon user with a library of about 5000 disks on NAS and a Qobuz subscriber.

Has anyone compared these?  I would like your objective opinions since I do not have Sonore listening compatibility.

But the Melco N-100 isn’t Roon certified?

34 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

But the Melco N-100 isn’t Roon certified?

Of course it has. All Melco are Roon Ready.