Release of Sonic Orbiter Operating System v2.9 for the Rendu Series

Yesterday I stumbled again over something that I find strange.

I use a Singxer-SU6 as a client after the Opticalrendu. Singxer promotes on there webpage that the SU6 can send PCM 32bit over the I2S interface. But it tells the Opticalrendu / NAA and HQPlayer that it can only do 24Bits. Can anyone confirm that? 

This is what the Opticalrendu gets when reading the client parameters:

Singxer USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

Playback:
  Status: Running
    Interface = 1
    Altset = 1
    Packet Size = 72
    Momentary freq = 44101 Hz (0x5.8338)
    Feedback Format = 16.16
  Interface 1
    Altset 1
    Format: S32_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 24
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 1
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No
  Interface 1
    Altset 2
    Format: S16_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 16
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 2
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No
  Interface 1
    Altset 3
    Format: SPECIAL DSD_U32_BE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 32
    DSD raw: DOP=0, bitrev=0
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 3
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No

access: RW_INTERLEAVED
format: S32_LE
subformat: STD
channels: 2
rate: 44100 (44100/1)
period_size: 11025
buffer_size: 22050

Simple mixer control 'USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) ',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 127
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) ',1
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 127
  Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]

Almost all streamed music and files are available in maximum 24-bit format.  Where would you even find 32-bit files from?

On 7/22/2024 at 8:50 AM, Xoverman said:

Yesterday I stumbled again over something that I find strange.

I use a Singxer-SU6 as a client after the Opticalrendu. Singxer promotes on there webpage that the SU6 can send PCM 32bit over the I2S interface. But it tells the Opticalrendu / NAA and HQPlayer that it can only do 24Bits. Can anyone confirm that? 

 

This is what the Opticalrendu gets when reading the client parameters:

 

Singxer USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

Playback:
  Status: Running
    Interface = 1
    Altset = 1
    Packet Size = 72
    Momentary freq = 44101 Hz (0x5.8338)
    Feedback Format = 16.16
  Interface 1
    Altset 1
    Format: S32_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 24
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 1
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No
  Interface 1
    Altset 2
    Format: S16_LE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 16
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 2
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No
  Interface 1
    Altset 3
    Format: SPECIAL DSD_U32_BE
    Channels: 2
    Endpoint: 0x01 (1 OUT) (ASYNC)
    Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000, 705600, 768000
    Data packet interval: 125 us
    Bits: 32
    DSD raw: DOP=0, bitrev=0
    Channel map: FL FR
    Sync Endpoint: 0x81 (1 IN)
    Sync EP Interface: 1
    Sync EP Altset: 3
    Implicit Feedback Mode: No

access: RW_INTERLEAVED
format: S32_LE
subformat: STD
channels: 2
rate: 44100 (44100/1)
period_size: 11025
buffer_size: 22050

Simple mixer control 'USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) ',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 127
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'USB Audio 2.0(SU-6) ',1
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 127
  Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]

 

Format S32_LE is a 32 bit stream. 

10 hours ago, vortecjr said:

Format S32_LE is a 32 bit stream. 

That‘s true, but it seams that the Singxer-SU6 fills up the lower 8 bits bit serows L

The SU-2 does not do that.

@vortecjr Any progress on the 6.2 Kernel?

Thanks…Mike

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I did a search and couldn't find a solution to my problem.  My microRendu has stopped working after I upgraded to version 2.9.  Roon sees the microRendu in the devices menu but when I select the microRendu in Roon as the output device it attempts to play the file and then stops saying there are too many errors.  How can fix this this.

9 hours ago, skaelin said:

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I did a search and couldn't find a solution to my problem.  My microRendu has stopped working after I upgraded to version 2.9.  Roon sees the microRendu in the devices menu but when I select the microRendu in Roon as the output device it attempts to play the file and then stops saying there are too many errors.  How can fix this this.

Can you update and do a restart. Maybe even restart a second time from power off. 
Da a restart your Roon server as well. 

I tried restarting numerous times and it makes no difference. Same with unplugging the power.  I've also restarted my router, DAC, and Roon server without success.  I've also switched out my usb cable and ethernet cables without success.

54 minutes ago, skaelin said:

I tried restarting numerous times and it makes no difference. Same with unplugging the power.  I've also restarted my router, DAC, and Roon server without success.  I've also switched out my usb cable and ethernet cables without success.

What / where is your Roon server ? Can you try to use a computer temporary as Roon server ? Or another computer. Maybe you have a NAS that can use Roon ?

Can you draw your network ?

21 hours ago, skaelin said:

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I did a search and couldn't find a solution to my problem.  My microRendu has stopped working after I upgraded to version 2.9.  Roon sees the microRendu in the devices menu but when I select the microRendu in Roon as the output device it attempts to play the file and then stops saying there are too many errors.  How can fix this this.

Sounds as though you may have a corrupted SD card.  This has happened to me several times.  The unit remains online but it just won't play anything despite the usual troubleshooting and following the correct restart routine.  Send an email to Sonore. Jesus R has very graciously replaced SD cards when they go bad. 

Yeah, sent an email to Jesus and he's sending me a new card with version 2.8.

On 10/08/2024 at 15:32, BCRich said:

@vortecjr Algum progresso no Kernel 6.2?

Obrigado…Mike

How do I find out the Kernel version on my OR?

1 hour ago, juniorbudel said:

How do I find out the Kernel version on my OR?

Type /diag after the IP address.

Example: 192.168.1.45/diag 

Hi All,
On installing the v2.9 sd card there was zero response from my MicroRendu (CPU Name: i.MX6DL, rev 1.3) at power on - no ethernet port led flashing, nothing.
I reinstalled my v2.8 card, (works fine) and contacted SGC, who promptly emailed me a copy of the SO v2.9 image, allowing me to burn a copy to an sd locally using Balena Etcher.
I wrote the image to a brand new 32GB Samsung Evo plus UHS-1 card, however the microRendu failed per previously - no ethernet port led activity at all. Ditto with a Sandisk card.
Reinstalled v2.8 and all is well.
I purchased my microRendu directly from Sonore in 2016, so it's definitely an older unit - but as stated, it runs fine on v2.8.
I'm wondering if  anyone here has had a similar experience and might be able to point me in the right direction.
Cheers

On 9/4/2024 at 7:17 PM, jitae55 said:

Hi All,
On installing the v2.9 sd card there was zero response from my MicroRendu (CPU Name: i.MX6DL, rev 1.3) at power on - no ethernet port led flashing, nothing.
I reinstalled my v2.8 card, (works fine) and contacted SGC, who promptly emailed me a copy of the SO v2.9 image, allowing me to burn a copy to an sd locally using Balena Etcher.
I wrote the image to a brand new 32GB Samsung Evo plus UHS-1 card, however the microRendu failed per previously - no ethernet port led activity at all. Ditto with a Sandisk card.
Reinstalled v2.8 and all is well.
I purchased my microRendu directly from Sonore in 2016, so it's definitely an older unit - but as stated, it runs fine on v2.8.
I'm wondering if  anyone here has had a similar experience and might be able to point me in the right direction.
Cheers

This is more likely than not due to an incompatibility of the operating system with the SOM. 

Thanks Jesus, I suspected this might be the case, however no CPU version limitation is listed when purchasing the 2.9 SD card for the microRendu, so I wondered if there may be another cause...

3 hours ago, jitae55 said:

Thanks Jesus, I suspected this might be the case, however no CPU version limitation is listed when purchasing the 2.9 SD card for the microRendu, so I wondered if there may be another cause...

My CPU Name: i.MX6DL, rev 1.3works fine with 2.9.

Thanks for the data point, esmit - so, perhaps something other than CPU version as a cause.
I had also considered whether the v2.9 image I received may have been at issue - e.g. revisions within the version.

6 hours ago, jitae55 said:

Thanks for the data point, esmit - so, perhaps something other than CPU version as a cause.
I had also considered whether the v2.9 image I received may have been at issue - e.g. revisions within the version.

My 2.9 version for both ultrarendu and microrendu lasted a few months, then I had to reorder both  because the SD-cards failed. Using baleno etcher I made a backup, just to be sure, and I ordered industrial sd cards just in case and I use those for the last 5 months. This week I restored the copy for my microrendu as it stopped working somehow. If I were you I would just burn a copy again, this time it might work. 

Not sure why it would corrupt, 2.5 and 2.8 were quite OK.

Thanks esmit, yes, trying again is about all I can do, although I have now made four attempts using three different sd cards.
I also (successfully) made a backup copy of v2.8, just in case.
Cheers.