The Computer Audiophile Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 From dCS: “A new audio experience from dCS. Launching 07 August 2024.” Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted August 5 Popular Post Share Posted August 5 Does Golden Sound get one to review? Confused, Spacecase, Audiophile Neuroscience and 6 others 1 1 7 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 My prediction... Ring DAC to Sphere DAC!!!!!!!!!!! with 3D dolby atmos decoding! No electron left behind. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted August 6 Popular Post Share Posted August 6 okay, how many multiples of 6 figures does this cost? Priaptor and semente 2 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6 Author Share Posted August 6 @firedog you’re really feeling positive lately huh? bobfa 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Allan F Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 10 hours ago, firedog said: okay, how many multiples of 6 figures does this cost? 9 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: @firedog you’re really feeling positive lately huh? Hey, it's a legitimate question, IMO. "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 10 minutes ago, Allan F said: Hey, it's a legitimate question, IMO. Of course the price of anything is a legitimate question. However, it’s often not what one says but how one says it that makes all the difference. Given his only two comments in this thread, I sense some negativity. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Allan F Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Of course the price of anything is a legitimate question. However, it’s often not what one says but how one says it that makes all the difference. Given his only two comments in this thread, I sense some negativity. Some might prefer to call it a different and, perhaps, less enthusiastic perspective. DuckToller 1 "Relax, it's only hi-fi. There's never been a hi-fi emergency." - Roy Hall "Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - William Bruce Cameron Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Allan F said: Some might prefer to call it a different and, perhaps, less enthusiastic perspective. Surely. I encourage everyone to stay positive. Whether it’s a Timex or a Patek, if neither are what one is looking for, that’s OK, but there’s no reason to be a downer. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Priaptor Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I just find it interesting that WADAX, who in my opinion hit the market just right for a 500K+ DAC with their cables and now with what may be a softening economy are releasing a trickle down "reasonably priced" DAC whereas MSB and DCS are catching up to WADAX with their version of the super expensive DAC. Interesting times in the DAC world. Link to comment
yamamoto2002 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I'm fan of Varèse, have several CDs of Ionisation and Intégrales, intense but somehow feel of tradition of classical music from the pieces I feel some sonata form from this piece Ionisation DuckToller 1 Sunday programmer since 1985 Developer of PlayPcmWin Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted August 7 Popular Post Share Posted August 7 7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Of course the price of anything is a legitimate question. However, it’s often not what one says but how one says it that makes all the difference. Given his only two comments in this thread, I sense some negativity. No, not really. The first one was just a joke - no real intent behind it. As far as the question of the price, I wouldn't say negativity, just a bit of skepticism at the corporate marketing: pre-announcement teaser>slick PR video with no real information. Obviously it is going to be super expensive and marketed to the last .01%. Nothing wrong with that per se, but the marketing just rubs me the wrong way. Not connected to dCS, I'm just not a big fan of the whole corporate marketing approach in any area. I still haven't forgotten being 4 or 5 years old and finding out that the toys I got weren't really as advertised on TV. Turned me into a permanent skeptic and cynic about advertising. DuckToller and Axiom05 2 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
octaviars Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Speakers: TAD CE-1. Amplifier: TAD M2500MK2. Digital: TAD DA1000-TX, Innuos STATEMENT Next-Gen, Innuos PhoenixNET. Miscellaneous: Qobuz Studio, Ansuz Mainz 8 D2, Ansuz Darkz DTC, Tubulus Argentus/Concentus LAN-cables, Tubulus Concentus USB cable, Tubulus Argentus V2 XLR cables, Tubulus Argentus V3 + V3 Bass Bi-wire speakercables, iFi Nova powercables, iFi LAN iSilencer. Link to comment
Iving Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Just live: https://dcsaudio.com/edit/introducing-varese Extracts: The Varèse Music System comprises five components: a Core; a User Interface, an optional Master Clock, and two Mono DACs – one for each audio channel. It also includes a dedicated Varèse Remote Control and a new app, dCS Mosaic ACTUS. A dedicated CD/SACD Transport will also be available from 2025. New technologies & innovations Varèse utilises a suite of new technologies that have enabled us to further enhance performance and deliver sound with even greater precision and clarity. These include dCS Tomix, a patented new clocking technology: ACTUS, a bespoke interface that carries audio, control and timing signals between components; and the Differential Ring DAC, a new version of the dCS Ring DAC™ that represents the biggest change to our DAC architecture in a generation. More information about Varèse and its supporting technologies will be published on dcsaudio.com on August 9. We’ll provide an in-depth look at the system’s design over the next few months, with deep dives, whitepapers and videos showcasing the technologies and features that drive its performance. Varèse will debut on static display at the Hong Kong AV show on August 9, before travelling to other events worldwide throughout 2024. Active demonstrations will take place in the UK and US from September 2024 onwards. Systems will be manufactured in limited quantities and shipping will commence from late 2024. DuckToller 1 Link to comment
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Axiom05 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I'm sorry, but this almost looks like a joke. dCS has created a parody of themselves: how many boxes can we make to play music? You can even add an extra one to play silver discs. Where do you put all of this stuff even if you could afford it? Sorry, again, I guess I'm being practical. Honestly, I love new tech and all that, but this one really leaves me cold. Main System: [Synology DS216, Rpi-4b LMS (pCP)], Holo Audio Red, Ayre QX-5 Twenty, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-5 Twenty, Revel Ultima Studio2, Iconoclast speaker cables & interconnects, RealTraps acoustic treatments Living Room: Sonore ultraRendu, Ayre QB-9DSD, Simaudio MOON 340iX, B&W 802 Diamond Link to comment
Axiom05 Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Also, don't you think that the face design looks a bit too similar to the Innuos Pulse series of streamers? Main System: [Synology DS216, Rpi-4b LMS (pCP)], Holo Audio Red, Ayre QX-5 Twenty, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-5 Twenty, Revel Ultima Studio2, Iconoclast speaker cables & interconnects, RealTraps acoustic treatments Living Room: Sonore ultraRendu, Ayre QB-9DSD, Simaudio MOON 340iX, B&W 802 Diamond Link to comment
DuckToller Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I'll bet one of my DACs that the price of the recommended power cables (for example - Transparent Opus line) plus interconnects could easily transcend the value of all my audio gear spendings during 45 years into this hobby. And some ... I've read elsewhere it will be a new proprietary design for the ICs. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 38 minutes ago, Axiom05 said: I'm sorry, but this almost looks like a joke. dCS has created a parody of themselves: how many boxes can we make to play music? You can even add an extra one to play silver discs. Where do you put all of this stuff even if you could afford it? Sorry, again, I guess I'm being practical. Honestly, I love new tech and all that, but this one really leaves me cold. I like that dCS totally went for it. I can’t wait to learn more about the reasoning for what it’s doing and to learn about what it’s actually doing in the new differential ring DAC. We’ve been using AES, S/PDIF etc… forever. Perhaps there’s a better way or a better way to transport it. With respect to a separate box for physical media. Thank god! That’s likely the most expensive part. Those without CDs and SACDs likely don’t want that added cost if they won’t use it. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 17 minutes ago, DuckToller said: I'll bet one of my DACs that the price of the recommended power cables (for example - Transparent Opus line) plus interconnects could easily transcend the value of all my audio gear spendings during 45 years into this hobby. And some ... I've read elsewhere it will be a new proprietary design for the ICs. I’ll bet one of my DACs that it ships with all the cables needed. DuckToller 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Iving Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 I read rumoured Varèse will sell at 220k USD and that's presumably without transport. Honestly I might be spending in region of 100k (GBP) in the next year or so, but I am not a headphones user, and I need to play records including 78s. I'm happy with my digital front end. So my 100k would go something like 35k on Technics SL-1000R with two arms/carts, between 30 and 60k on speakers and power amps (depending on whether I went Active / kept my Snell Type A III if remaining passive) and maybe 20k on Pre/Phono/DAC such as Makua. Although, I'm not in the market for Varèse particularly, I'm interested in the whole audio range - beyond what I may use or could afford. My post point is that the actual demand for Varèse (I imagine/for argument's sake) will come from people who likely already have a dCS stack at home. So - seems to me - four big questions in ascending order of importance are: 1. What will the audio "press" (independent and not so independent) say about Varèse? 2. What will Varèse buyers do with their old stacks? 3. What will Varèse buyers say about how/how much Varèse improves on their existing dCS gear? 4. Have Varèse buyers - in their own minds - achieved value for money trading up? Link to comment
Iving Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Brochure: https://www.moremusic.nl/dcs/brochures/dCS-Varese-Brochure.pdf The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, Iving said: Brochure: https://www.moremusic.nl/dcs/brochures/dCS-Varese-Brochure.pdf Good thing I have a local copy :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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